CoronaVirus - Possible Vaccines and Treatments

China and Russia are full on believing in their vaccines. They have finished successful phase 1 trials that many other vaccines have passed, including our own vaccines in Australia. Hopefully, their phase 3 trials will bear up their optimisms.

 

Not sure if I've put this in the right place - but interesting video explaining the coloration between Covid and air humidity/dryness - rather than temperature

 

Yeah pretty well what l've said myself quite a few times. Things have come a long long way and when something has to be done and the whole worlds working on it, there are hopefully ways.

 

Exactly , the charade was laughable.

 

Maybe some of them are, I haven't read up on them all but this specific one we are discussing is careful. Vaccine creation is pretty routine now, though as I say, I haven't read up on all vaccines being made and the standards they adhere.

I am a biomedical researcher currently at a university in California. I research chronic complications initiated by infection/trauma/toxic insult. Focus largely on the various host responses that cause altered recovery trajectories. I work on a number of projects but one is COVID ICU and post-ICU recovery.

 

Yeah , lotta faith in the English , incredible builders and hopefully vac makers too.

 

there is a case in HK where a person got infected back in March, then tested negative (recovered with anti-bodies in his body)

and now in August he is tested positive again. which means even if you have the anti-bodies for a while, you can still getting infected, and infect others.

the point of a vaccine is to make your body create anti-bodies...... so what does this means ?

 

But your body is ready and able to overcone the virus the second time, quicker. Your body recognises it and is able to ramp up a relevant immune response with little delay.
But yes, the second time you can also still be infectious, your body still needs to fight the virus.

 

Is this proven? So much about this virus that makes no sense I doubt it is proven.

 

Was the infected person asymptomatic the first or second time of being infected?

I think the point of a vaccine is to give people some sort of hope. We all know it is not the cure for this virus. Take the influenza vaccine as an example - every year it comes back in a mutated version.

 

Covid is not new

 

That's how it works for all viruses. It's just how the immune response works. The body keeps a memory of the virus and how to defeat it, so when the body encounters it a subsequent time, the body is primed to create an appropriate immune response.

However, if the second Covid strain is different, the body's defence mechanism may not recognise the virus/will not have a defence mechanism against the new strain and it may struggle to fight it, just like it's a completely new disease.

 

Fair enough, a bit like why each year we get new influenza strains doing the rounds. Even with vaccines it just simply comes back as a mutated version then a new vaccine is required and the new vaccine is usually made from the previous years influenza - hence never really being very effective.

 

Really interesting thanks. I'm no antivaxxer but when I think about having a vaccine for next years flu and it being created from last years flu it doesn't really make much sense as it cannot be 100% the vaccine for next years flu. Then think how many different strains of Covid19 we already have in 7-8months and we are talking about 1 vaccine as the answer?
Would love to know your scientists view on the apparent Covid19 vaccine.

 

I tend to have the same opinion at this stage and to have a jab of something that has been tested for a few months only scares the heck out of me.

 

Agree, at the end of the day, life needs to go on. We can’t be in lockdown forever. The vaccine will allow society to function again. 100 years ago, the common flu was deadly. We have move past that, so we can do it again.

 

The flu still kills up to 600 thousand people annually - mainly peole with respiratory diseases. Lucky we don't have a daily count on these deaths..

I have no faith in a vaccine being the answer - Covid19 is just too easily transmitted and it also seems to mutate rather rapidly.
Does a vaccine mean no more social distancing, no more masks, large events allowed again? I don't think so because it will probably be about 40-50% effective and thats if 100% of the population takes it. At a large event with say 100 thousand people that means approx 50 thousand in there are vulnerable, they catch it take it home and to work and here we go again. Also I highly doubt that 1 vaccine will cover all strains of the virus.

You never know, maybe Russia will come with an actual cure.