converting weekly rent to monthly

Discussion in 'Property Management' started by mr_alex, 8th Jan, 2018.

Join Australia's most dynamic and respected property investment community
  1. mr_alex

    mr_alex Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    28th Jan, 2017
    Posts:
    227
    Location:
    Gold Coast
    my tenant is paying $420 pw. When I renew the lease I want to change to monthly payments

    option 1. 420x52/12 = $1820 pm
    option 2. 420/7x365/12 = $1825 pm

    are there any rules to follow or any issues with the 2nd calculation?

    cheers
     
  2. D.T.

    D.T. Specialist Property Manager Business Member

    Joined:
    3rd Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    9,189
    Location:
    Adelaide and Gold Coast
    The 2nd one Alex
     
  3. Scott No Mates

    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    27,225
    Location:
    Sydney or NSW or Australia
    Generally method 2 but this year has 366 days in it :eek: Will missing out on $60 over the course of the year send you broke? Of course it all depends upon when the change is effective and whether, like in NSW, the change to monthly has to be initiated by the tenant.
     
  4. G..

    G.. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    11th Jan, 2017
    Posts:
    92
    Location:
    NSW
    Nah, it was 2016 that was the leap year. Next one will be 2020.

    I've seen number 2 used, and they dropped one day during the 2016 leap year (i.e. instead of the monthly rent being due on the 22nd, it changed to being due on the 21st. I presume that this was due to the leap day)
     
  5. Scott No Mates

    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    27,225
    Location:
    Sydney or NSW or Australia

    My bad we only get an extra day for the Summer Olympics (not the real ones in winter).
     
  6. Big Will

    Big Will Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    2,517
    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    They will suspect and want option 1 but you would prefer option 2.

    Let the negations begin :).
     
    kierank likes this.
  7. mikey7

    mikey7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    30th Mar, 2016
    Posts:
    1,173
    Location:
    Sydney, Brisbane
    I wanted the same. Ended up getting 28 days (7x4) rent every month.
    Then they just pay me an extra week's worth every now and then.
     
  8. thatbum

    thatbum Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    5,834
    Location:
    Perth, WA
    Rent generally accrues per day, so just make sure you aren't being short changed a few days each monthly payment.
     
    Tom Rivera likes this.
  9. MyPropertyPro

    MyPropertyPro REBAA Buyer's Agents Sutherland Shire & Surrounds Business Member

    Joined:
    1st Jul, 2015
    Posts:
    1,892
    Location:
    Australia
    Most PMs don't even know how to work this one out properly. Everyone assumes there are exactly 52 weeks in a year and there aren't. All rent is calculated daily so method 2 is the correct method unless it's a leap year but any adjustments will be made.
     
    kierank and Tom Rivera like this.
  10. Tom Rivera

    Tom Rivera Property Manager Business Member

    Joined:
    1st Jul, 2015
    Posts:
    2,718
    Location:
    South East Queensland
    Do you private manage? Keep a ledger? This arrangement seems like an odd way to keep formal track of rent payments.

    That's right.

    There aren't two ways to calculate it- method one is wrong.
     
    MyPropertyPro likes this.
  11. Scott No Mates

    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    27,225
    Location:
    Sydney or NSW or Australia
    @Tom Rivera - there are two ways, the right way & the other one. :rolleyes:
     
    Tom Rivera likes this.
  12. thatbum

    thatbum Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    5,834
    Location:
    Perth, WA
    My ones that I privately manage, I don't do monthly payments because it is annoying to keep track. But I'm saying that monthly normally means calendar month, so if you just get a 4 week payment on the same date of each month, you're going to be missing days each time.
     
    Tom Rivera likes this.

Build Passive Income WITHOUT Dropping $15K On Buyers Agents Each Time! Helping People Achieve PASSIVE INCOME Using Our Unique Data-Driven System, So You Can Confidently Buy Top 5% Growth & Cashflow Property, Anywhere In Australia