Converting study to bedroom

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  1. Creamy

    Creamy Well-Known Member

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    Property in question is 3br + study, 2 bath and 2 car.

    I'd like to convert the study to a bedroom. It's approximately 2.75m x 3.3m but doesn't have a built in. The house also only has 1 living area, however I'm not too concerned about this as the study would likely be used as a bedroom anyway and I'm not losing any living space.

    Option 1 - No cost
    Do nothing and just call it a bedroom.
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    Option 2 - Minor cost (Under $5k)
    The master bedroom next door has a built in robe. I can partly demolish the shared wall and rob part of that built in and seal off the robbed part of the master bedroom.
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    Option 3 - Add a small BIR
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    So I guess my questions are:
    1. How do I get it valued as a 4 bedroom, instead of a 3 + 1?
    2. Is there any effect in halving the size of the BIR of the master bedroom? Tenants or value wise?
    3. Will the room be too small then?

    Any ideas?
     

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  2. Perthguy

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    I would not take the master wir. 3300 is good for a bedroom. You can fit a built in robe along the same wall as the master wir. It should not cost 5k either
     
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  3. Creamy

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    Doh! I just realised I have the measurements flipped.

    The length of the BIR is 3300. I've updated the diagram.
     
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    Ok sure. Just move the BIR to the wall with the doorway. I would draw a pic but I am on my phone
     
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    Ah I understand (added diagram in). Won't the room be too small then? Had a quick measure of the BIR in my room and its about 60cm wide. The room would be 2.75m x 2.7m, which is 7.4sqm, just under the minimum room size to be considered a bedroom.

    Edit: Floor area includes build in furniture. Looks like this would be ok as a bedroom then.
     
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    I like option #1
    Just call it one and it will be valued as such.
    Having a built in is not what makes it a wardrobe.

    If need be, whack a spare bed in there.
     
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    Option 1, just call it a bedroom, put in a bed a set of drawers and free standing wardrobe.
     
  9. Gockie

    Gockie Unicycle - get exhausted but never two tired Premium Member

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    Option 2 if the wall is lightweight, i'd give the main bedroom the majority of closet space though. Shouldn't cost anywhere near 5k.
    Otherwise if the wall is not lightweight, i'd go option 1. Let the tenant bring their own wardrobe, or supply one yourself.
     
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    Leave it. If you want a robe in the newly named bedroom, get a PAX from Ikea or a used one from Gumtree.
     
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    Jess Peletier Mortgages, Finance & Property Strategy Aust Wide Business Member

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    Definitely don't steal from the master robe. There is never enough room for the adults and kids can cope with drawers for the most part.

    Our new PPOR has one room with no built ins, and our poor deprived youngest will have drawers for his clothes. Will likely add in a proper robe though eventually, to hide his junk/special stuff.
     
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    Ikea sell a 900mm wide around 2300mm high robe that fits almost to the ceiling. You can fit it out however you like with hanging space, shelves and drawers. More than adequate for a small single bedroom, especially with the extra height.

    Son put one in his laundry for his work clothes.
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    I'd lean towards #2. 2/3 & 1/3 split. Set of drawers, hanging space & high shelf & drawers with 2 lots of short hanging in bed 4.
     
  14. dabbler

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    Why do anything if it has a window, let people use it as they want, it does not have to have a built in to be a bedroom.
     
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    I'm looking to have the place valued soon. I'd like to take the guesswork out of it. If I leave it without a built in, there's a chance the valuer may see it as a study. But with a built in, it's seems less likely for that to happen.
     
  16. Marg4000

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    A built in doesn't make a bedroom.

    Can you furnish it with a bed?

    Frankly I can't see it making much difference to a valuer. Advantage to you is being able to advertise it as 4 bedroom. Unless occupied by a family with 3 or more children, most use the smallest bedroom as a study or office anyway.
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    Are there any council considerations? I was under the impression if you wanted to "add" a bedroom (that would count in a valuation) you had to get some kind of council approval- as they have different rules- eg number of carparks allowed per bedroom etc.
     
  18. Creamy

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    Thanks all. I'll need to check with Brisbane city council. I think it should be ok given the number of 4 bedroom and 2 car places in brisbane.
     
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    If it has a window, get a cheap single bed and a set of drawers of some kind, no need for a built in, but up to you, if you think that is best......I would do image 3.

    You wont need permission to put in a built in or placing a bed and drawers in an existing room IMO.
     
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    That was a very trippy post to this thread I received via email today from someone called emaagarfield (5:42pm WST).
    Must have been deleted, I wasn't aware individual posts could be deleted, only edited or entire threads deleted, learnt something new today.