Choice of two PMs - Starr Partners or Ray White

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  1. TroySeven

    TroySeven Well-Known Member

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    Hi PC,

    I'm in a pickle, house is almost ready to let and I've narrowed my potential PM's down to the two:
    - Ray White Campbelltown
    or
    - Starr Partners Campbelltown

    Each have offered me almost the same rate, fees, etc.
    Both BDM's are great with communication, etc. However, we all know it's not the BDM that will manage the property, it happens behind the scenes.

    Here is my analysis of the two

    Starr Partners
    Pros - less stock, less properties per agent, slightly better communication, rental listings appear to be a higher average than RY.
    Cons - less stock, less exposure, not as many tennants on their rent roll

    Ray White
    Pros - more renowned within PC, quick turnover, fast paced, more exposure (another office opened in the area), more tennants on their rent roll
    Cons - more stock, more churn and burn, I don't personally feel like they will analyse the market to push/pull rent prices.

    Let me know your thoughts, we basically will be making the decision tomorrow.
     
  2. D.T.

    D.T. Specialist Property Manager Business Member

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    Isnt this a pro rather than a con?
     
  3. Momentum

    Momentum Well-Known Member

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    I'd choose Starr, mainly because I've had bad experiences with Ray White franchisees plus I think you and your tenants will get more personalised service if they've got a smaller rent roll. The main thing to look at is the PM who will be actually looking after your property:
    - how old are they
    - been in the job long
    - male/female
    - warm & friendly or cold & business like
    - looks attractive or ugly (people tend to do the right thing by attractive people)
    - how quick are they at replying to your emails
    - run the same what if scenario past them and see how each reply
     
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  4. Peter_Tersteeg

    Peter_Tersteeg Mortgage Broker Business Member

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    Based on the arguments presented, Starr.

    However the main reason I pick any PM is based on the individual who'll be managing the property. Good back office support and processes is really important, but ultimately it comes down to the individual.
     
  5. TroySeven

    TroySeven Well-Known Member

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    Thanks fellas :)
     
  6. dabbler

    dabbler Well-Known Member

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    I would speak to those doing the actual PM work, everyone else is irrelevant.

    Had many good talkers over the years who were dismal failures as PMs, pretty hard to pick, anyway you have miles of choice in capitals, so no big deal as long as they screen the tenant applications well.
     
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  7. Xenia

    Xenia Well-Known Member

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    Ask to speak to some of their clients
     
  8. Zoolander

    Zoolander Well-Known Member

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    Many franchisees are simply local businesses with marketing, website and software support.

    In the vein of @dabbler s advice, compare the experience of the PM who will be assigned to you. Last thing you want is to handed to a noob PM when you expected the senior property agent to be your day to day contact.
     
  9. VB King

    VB King Well-Known Member

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    I'd be more interested in the individual property manager than the banner out the front of the office.
     
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  10. Yuga

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    @TroySeven,
    Which one did you end up choosing? How's your experience with them?
     
  11. Brooke Colledge

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    Interested to know who you decided on? As they were comparable in price, did you ask for further stats etc, ensuring the best value ie average time on market for a vacant property, arrears, tenant retention rate, ?
     
  12. Chris Au

    Chris Au Well-Known Member

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    Reading this thread as I'm interested in how you went (a few years ago now).

    RW Campbelltown, while a polished business has a lot of tenants/PM. I requested a rent increase late last year at the same time as renewing the lease. Lease renewed, no rent increase.... with the current situation, I think I've missed out until the market/economy settles....
     

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