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Hogwash.
I was able to do complex algebra, differential and 3D volume calculation on paper, no calculator. Nowadays I struggle with simple calculations on top of my head. Is it a passion thing? Can't see why you can't try and have fun

 

It's definitely not just an asian thing these days - even song time at the local library seems to have vecome competitive. Moving to the right areas for schools are something that is considered far in advance (aussie friends with an 15month old already talking about using grandparents address for primary, and renting for high school - the local primary here is in top 50 for state - the one they want is top 30).

 

Maybe you are just old. lol

 

I am old . Prefer to use calculator in 15 secs (even better, you can google the results) rather than calculate in my head for 1 min.

 

Does going tutoring make your more intelligent..... I'm still trying to figure that one out.

 

No. It helps if your school teacher is not good at explaining things.
Apart from that, it helps you to have good exam score.

 

It's all about that hsc number.... Then the real world kicks you in the ass!

 

I don't think so but it can help you to be more competant. I think the right question is: does tuturing improve education outcomes? The companies selling tutoring claim that it does

Yes! (I mean, I agree with this comment) It's funny about the maths thing because I was very good at Bilogy. In year 11 and 12 I was better at explaning some things than my Biology teacher and often corrected him in class. I was lucky he was good natured about it because I know some teachers react very badly to being corrected.

 

I don't think my primary school teachers were that great. That said, I do think tutoring did help in getting into selective school as it taught me things the teachers didn't teach as part of the standard curriculum.

That seems to be a key driver for parents. Having going through the education system here, i put very little weight on it - well at least I think i would... that said, I have already started comparing things that my daughter can't do that others kids can... wife pointed that out to me already (I'm doing the asian parent thing subconsciously )

No one gives rats about your exam school in the real world. So you get HD's through school. That's nice, what's that going to do for your employment? How's that going to make you money? Gives you confidence that you can kick ass, then you come into the real world and get your ass kicked.... some people recover, some don't.

Damn right.

 

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I place the value of education not on the direct knowledge, but the "peripheral" things you learn. Logic in math, discipline in studying, being able to READ at all, creating a logical coherent argument, critical thinking, respect others (this is a social value that's enforced in my school and at home), etc. The only direct education that I actually USE is English. My English score was terrible. Learn to be better at speaking and writing when I move here for university - could not do it without basics.

Interesting. I was part of a special curriculum that shorten high school to 2 years and did enjoy the class a lot more - smaller, closer friends, more focused teachers due to smaller size class. The main question is - Why can't this be done for more students not just "gifted" ones?

 

I think one on one tutoring to help with explanations makes sense. Teaching this logic can help someone in the future (in my opinion) in utilising this logic for other walks of life.

I don't see much value for "group" tutoring who's sole purpose is to teach things ahead of the school curriculum.

 

This is what my classes were like for adult maths education. The teachers were excellent and started with the "why" before moving on to the "what". I did really well in certain aspects of these classes:- logarithms, quadratic equations and differential calculus. Understanding the "why" was crucial to being able to apply these concepts properly.

Sounds like focussing on the "what". Personally, I have never found this particularly useful.

 

I'm not sure what age your daughter is but the difference in young kids (im looking at <5) is amazing. They all develop and learn different things at different ages. Just like their bodies, some kids walk at 6months some not till 18months, they still walk but those two kids might be opposite in the way they use a spoon or swim. They can still do things just start at different ages.

My daughter rides a scooter, the boy next door same age rides a balance bike.they're both maniacs... Until they swapped! Both unco! (Haha) but after half hour they were both improving. Kids get exposed to different things in different ways and at different times, they still (most cases) will get it.

I see the first 3years of school as lifting and smashing down kids to get them to the "same level", then carrying on school at the "same level".

Another problem... (I might cop a reaming) is... "mums" they are so competitive and critical of themselves and comparing their kids! Constantly assessing their kid vs little billy! It's great to be proactive but when it's so your kid can do what some other kid is doing it's putting unnecessary pressure on kids and parents! The poor dads are collateral damage

 

Yep. We do this for our kids. Plus learn piano, violin, swimming, footy, karate.

When my son didn't top his tutor class one week, I suggested to my wife that we should get a tutor to help him with his weekend tutoring. I was joking. She wasn't.

 

Quite normal for Asians,education is paramount and from a very early age ,my Wife Asian and started tutoring the 4 daughters from very early,i only went too grade ten so i was no help
you swim or you sink..

 

From a university perspective your final marks in Year 12 are no longer a guarantee of a placement in many subjects.

Universities have started interviewing potential students for their aptitude, communication skills and ability to react in the workplace rather than being able to recite an answer.

 

That seems to be the appropriate approach.

 

Yeah, calculator on PC, phone etc...
Been available on watches since the 80's.
I use them all the time, not the most mathletically gifted.

 

100% agree. The place where I went tutoring was done on a 1 on 1 manner and I found this particular helpful, there was a lot of "why" being asked.

The 2nd place, PreUni was absolute rubbish, I did 3u math (so not exactly bad at math), but i had missed 2 classes at the beginning due to late enrolment and I was never able to catch up. I ended up socialising in class instead..