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Chinese Opera....Greek Drama Pales in Comparision

Discussion in 'Property Market Economics' started by sash, 29th Jun, 2015.

  1. sash

    sash Well-Known Member

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    It would seem that no one talks about the Chinese Opera unfolding....Greece will not have as a severe impact on our economy as China who is a largest trading partner.

    A couple of things to ponder:

    1. The Chinese share market has gone up over 90% over the last 2 years....do ya think some of this money made it to the Aussie real estate market.

    2. The Chinese Central Bank has lowered rates again to stimulate the economy...Chinese economy stalling?

    3. China's growth rate is tethering on 7%....anything under 7% will cause unemployment to rise quickly.

    4. China is reliant on internal growth (i.e consumption) ...will unemployed Chinese spend?

    5. China is second largest economy...this will have a sever impact if it heads down....

    6. China is not a transparent country....the dirty laundry will be hidden...hopefully their economy does not mirror Japan's

    What does this mean for the Australian economy:

    1. Watch the suburbs where the Mainland Chinois invested....it will get interesting

    2. rate cut maybe sooner than thought...I have my money on Aug/Sept

    3. It will be interesting to see if India, Indonesia, Vietnam, and others pick-up the slack....
     
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    The Chinese govt has been and still I's very much pro-growth. Yes the impact is more significant for us ..But china is so far ahead that it can do a whole range of things to prevent disaster . Greece on the other hand cannot. Ie the good ol western analogy- china has plenty of bullets in their gun whereas greece has none.
     
  3. sash

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    We'll see....Greece is a democracy and there is more transparency though no one there is prepared to accept their fate...including the govt..the gravy train is over boys..

    Yes the Chinese govt is very proactive as they are a central govt.....but they also hide a lot of things.

     
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    Transparency? ...
     
  5. willair

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    Maybe look at the other side also,from what people send me and I read from US based sites, is that the USA investors make up 60%$$$ more then Chinese title holders in Australia,not sure if that's a fact maybe with $$ transfer liquid rate ,but it makes one sided media spinners way out of wack..
     
  6. sash

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    Yes transparency...means that you can see the good and the bad. China hides a lot of the bad elements...a policy of the central govt to prevent mass discontent.

     
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    I actually think that when China falls Australia will follow. So much production in China they just build and build to keep up their own GDP. Once China pop Australia will follow
     
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    It's a frightening thought, and one I think will play out, but I think it'll be a long while. I think China has enough ammunition in their back pocket to keep pushing it back for a long time. I don't think the music will stop for at least another 10 years.
     
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    The number 1 thing the Chinese government is concerned about is staying in power. In light of this, there are 3 key areas they will always focus on: keep people employed, ensure their incomes keep rising and to instill some nationalistic pride.
     
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    "Oh crap we need to distract them...umm...." *points finger* "damn those Japanese!"
     
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    Key area no.4 - and shoot them if they stray off the plan.
     
  12. willair

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    Not long to go now till they walk away from their responsibilities,the child poverty rate in Greece is 40.5,%%compared to somewhere like Norway at less then six%,plus there would be a lot of euro bankers and bond holders very worried before this implodes..
     
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    Things I've read lately are saying China is still on the way up the and US is on the way down.
    They overtook them last year, and are tipped to be the dominant power sooner rather than later.
    http://www.businessinsider.com.au/china-overtakes-us-as-worlds-largest-economy-2014-10
    And the US hates BRICS and the move away from the US $:
    http://in.rbth.com/news/2015/06/30/brics_disrupted_us_plans_to_block_russia_experts_43961.html
     
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    China's economy is Schrodinger's Cat - it's both alive and well, and dead and buried .... until you look inside the box and are forced to condense the ENTIRE economy into one viewpoint.

    Which, as we know, doesn't work in China.

    So accept the multi-verse-economy-parallels and just walk away.
     
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    I think he is means that we would wouldn't see a problem right away. It would have a delayed affect as they would mask any disasters or problems in the short term. Or at least they would attempt to.
     
  17. Aaron Sice

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    maybe - but figure fudging can go on for years - ask a NINJA.
     
  18. Player

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    Good analogy Aaron. The manipulation of China's figures can indeed go on for years. The world as we know it will continue to function within what is the current (perceived) reality until it isn't the reality anymore and a new reality takes its place...........

    Do the best we can with what we've got to work with and stay safe. IMO this is not time for excessive LVR's with what may potentially transpire globally. The flip side is that it may provide opportunity for those equipped and prepared especially within equities markets and the volatility that Euro gyrations might bring to sentiment in the short/medium term.

    0.02....nothing more. Merely how I see it from my perspective.
     
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  20. blackenator

    blackenator Well-Known Member

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    I really dont know how the Chinese economy to be on the up they are building for nothing they build units and towns where no one can afford. When supply outstrips demand something is wrong and that's whats happening in China at the moment