Chinese developers pulling out

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  1. Kangabanga

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    Pretty tricky to secure finance now for this market segment.
     
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    Unless they think they can get it cheaper in 5 years time.
     
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    For those that understand China political environment, Dalian Wanda is one of the largest developer in China, probably on par with Greenland. The reason this group is pulling out was because of the Chinese government demand all these international investment companies to stop their overseas project and pull all the funds back to China. Similar to the Trump's tax strategy by pulling all overseas investment back into the US, but with a more direct approach.

    What is happening was these companies are not transferring their profits back to China after they make a deal, while they kept pumping money out of China to fund the projects. Which kind of go against China's capital control.

    I believe the smaller developers are still able to fund these development projects. But very soon the government will catch up to them. They are too busy to fry these big fishes at the moment.
     
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    Bitcoin being illegal shuts down another avenue of cash moving off the mainland
     
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    Less new developments while immigration keeps doing its thing - might be rosy from a rental demand POV. Fingers crossed!
     
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    Yes, however, asking-rent rates for this kind of stock will be capped somewhat.

    With the growing population I would ordinarily say 'supply and demand, folks. More humans, less apartments for rent = increased asking-rents'.

    But these are not normal times. With wage growth stagnant and going backwards in some places, and underemployment rife; people simply arent earning much more money to afford high rents. If anything... rental demand in outer suburbs where rents are much cheaper, might see an uptick in those areas.

    To me it is all about yields right now in these times. Cash flow is vital right now as further capital growth in most 'major' markets seems unlikely for the coming years ahead.
     
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    Different story in US
    Chinese buyers led the pack for the fourth straight year

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    If LVR is is healthy I think it's a good business idea. I think just looking at this more with Business lending criteria rather than residential is the way to go.
     
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    Foreign buyers down. Particularly in NSW.

    Overall, foreign purchases of new
    housing fell to 9.5 per cent of the country's total, a five-year low, the NAB report shows.

    "Lower foreign buying activity in new property markets was led by Victoria, where the share ofsales to foreign buyers fell to 14.4 per cent (from 20.8 per cent in Q2)," the report said.

    "Foreign buyers were also noticeably less prevalent in NSW, where their market share fell to 7.8 per cent - its lowest level since Q1 2012 and down from 12 per cent in Q2. The proportion of foreign buyers in new property markets also fell in WA to 4.5 per cent (6.9 per cent in Q2). In contrast, foreign buyersincreased their market share in QLD to 11.4 per cent (8.6 per cent in Q2) despite the introduction of aforeign investor land tax surcharge in July 2017."



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