Children’s TV character Fireman Sam axed as a mascot for lacking inclusivity

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  1. CowPat

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    5 young men take their own life in Australia every week
    what I said exactly was
    quote - "young men, who are struggling trying to find their place in the world are paying the price
    its a big problem check out the stats on suicide .... "

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    my niece is a nurse she has worked in emergency for 6 years she knows her stuff

    it its mentally and physically demanding( she talks about how patient grabbing hold of her while they are falling)
    no where is there a male nurse earning a higher hourly rate than a female nurse

    if you are female and are being payed less you need to seek legal advice
    federal gender discrimination act , see the human rights commission


    feminists take the median male and female wages
    and use fake flawed comparison maths to give the appearance they are victims

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    There is no such thing as a gender pay gap at all
    FACTS
    women Choose to work less hours
    women choose to work in industries that pay less
    Men are more likely to travel away from the home and time with the family to earn a wage

    Men do more dangerous jobs (see ↑↑ bricklaying on a scaffold)
    there are an average of 3.5 workplace fatality's every week (see M/F statistics)


    mothers take a long time hiatus to raise childern
    Men work more and see their family's very little


    let the outrage begin !
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    Suicide is a big problem. My daughter had a close friend who committed suicide while studying with her at university. It had a huge impact on her personally, and on her studies.

    Suicide kills twice as many people than car accidents, yet little attention is given to it.

    Women are not immune however. Rates of depression, and suicide attempts, are higher amongst women than men. This may mean that attempts are less dedicated - or it could mean other things.

    Alcohol consumption by men is on average much higher than that of women. And alcohol appears to be implicated in many suicides.

    Violence against women is far too high - physical and sexual.

    But it's a very complex thing, there can be many factors. It can be that men find it much harder to share their feelings. Men are supposed to be strong.

    People, not just men, are struggling to find their place in the world. The world is changing, for both sexes. Things which were acceptable once are no longer acceptable - and in many cases the world is better for this. It can be difficult to adapt. I was brought up in a world where men would never need to do anything domestic - and where women would not need to work. Baby boomers like me have had to adapt and change. But while it can be difficult, it's not impossible. If one tries to be fair to other people, tries to do the right thing, tries to see the world from somebody else's eyes - then the adapting becomes much easier.

    Suicide rates appear to be dropping. Perhaps change is happening.

    Why more men than women die by suicide
     
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    8 people in Australia take their own life in Australia every day
    men are 350% more likely than women
    young men are the most at risk

    stop young men choosing permanent solutions to temporary problems

    speak to councillors or mates use the RUok resources
    blackdog institute


    Supporting young men at risk of suicide | MensLine Australia
     
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    Actually, young men aren't the most at risk. The highest rate is 85+ yo

    Suicide facts and stats - Life in Mind Australia

    I've just started a short course with Beyond Blue on depression in the elderly.

    Remember too that women attempt suicide more than men, they succeed a lot less. Depression can hit everybody, not just men.
     
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    Geoff no stats 19 to 34 p/100,000 ?



    women use suicide as a cry for help

    but of course its just a mens problem
    so lets funnel public money into domestic violence
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    Safer families levy
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    I would prefer to choose which charities my money goes to .
    I would prefer to see studies done in regards to single parents family's
    chemically zombifying boys , for showing natural rambunctious behaviour
    and how that affects mental health and suicide as they progress to adulthood
     
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    CowPat, some of your claims are odd, but this one is just bizarre! What a weird conspiracy theory about single parents!
     
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    You might have to go back a re-read my post
     
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    Link please to support your assertion
     
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    FWIW, it would appear that firefighters is the preferred term by fire brigades and has been for years. Anyone using fireman is living in the past...
     
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    Great article. 85+ with cancer is a great motivator to choose to end your life on your own terms rather than go through chemo or other therapies, quality of life would be rubbish....
     
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    While cancer and diseases are no doubt factors, depression is a huge thing with older people. There are many factors contributing - loss of mobility, decline in sensory perception, loss of loved ones, medications etc.

    There's a good series on ABC TV - Old People's Home for 4 year Olds, where children spend time with elderly people. It's interesting to see the varying levels of depression in some of the residents, and how they respond to having children around.
     
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    Oh I only mentioned cancer because they called it out, might have misread that, but agree that those factors may be a significant contributor to that spike (in male deaths)
     
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    That's just outrageously offensive.
     
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    you mean doing nothing much and getting a hand out from her racist father....great role model you got there.
     
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    First article has nothing to do issue of the firefighter, did you actually read it or was it the first article that came up when you googled? It actually talking about STEM subjects being the quickest way to financial freedom in non-western nations, in western nations they suggest that there are other options that women take up.
    Second one is an opinion piece by Jordon Peterson - he's got a serious hang up about gender and is rolled out by the reactionary right when they need someone to try to give their position credit. He's gained a lot of power (and money) by being their "poster boy". Reading the linked papers are interesting if you can find them: http://eprints.leedsbeckett.ac.uk/4753/6/symplectic-version.pdf , not really a paradox and not really related to the topic. But whatever.
     
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    Dude relax...I wasn't serious....

    If I was serious I'd of said Martin North.
     
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    I didn't say it had to do with the firefighter issue exactly. I was talking about gender and the jobs we do in general.
    And that is YOUR opinion on Peterson. Doesn't make it fact. Don't get sucked into the far left and far right's ridiculous war with each other is my advice.
    Anyway, have a nice day.
    I'm moving back into the real estate threads!
     
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    indeed it is my opinion, never said otherwise, but if you look at the cheer leaders of Peterson and the people who attend his speeches i think you'll find there is a lot of evidence to corroborate my opinion of him and the people who reference him.