CGT implications

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  1. PhoneixPal

    PhoneixPal Member

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    Hi All,
    My Friend bought a new house but due to some situation they are thinking delaying moving in and renting it out first but concerned about the CGT when selling . He doesn’t own any other house and bought this as a family home and intend to live in there for years to come. Currently they are renting .

    Which would be an ideal option?

    What would be the CGT impact between straight away renting out for 2 years and then move permanently or move in first for at least 6 months and then rent out for 2 years and then move permanently.

    he said even if he moves in anytime before 6 years after initially renting out ( in his case in 2 years) he will not be liable for any CGT while selling.
    Is that right?
    Please share your views.
    Thank you.
     
  2. Scott No Mates

    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

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    He'd be wrong.

    If he's going to rent it out first, he can take full advantage of depreciation allowances until he moves in. It will be liable for CGT upon sale as a % of the time owned. It will also be reduced x 50% if he owns it for more than 12 months.

    If he moves in initially & moves out again, he loses some of the depreciation benefits but gains the possibility of using the PPOR exemption for 6 years (assuming that he doesn't leave the country).

    A chat to an accountant will sort it out beforehand.
     
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    John buys a property, rents it out initially for 2 years, then lives in it as ppor for the next 8.

    Can John use third element costs incurred throughout the whole 8 years when it was ppor to increase the cost base in the calculation of 2/10 cg?
     
  4. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    If he rents it out before moving in it will forever be subject to cgt. But the cgt could be nil depending on the circumstances
     
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    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

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    Ah yes, I forgot about Homer moving in before he passes away. All is forgiven.
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    I wasn’t thinking about that but yes that is true
     
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    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    Thank you all. I gave him all this info and Terry’s links to read before he makes any decision.
     
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  9. Paul@PAS

    Paul@PAS Tax, Accounting + SMSF + All things Property Tax Business Plus Member

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    Some benefits and issues with not making a property the main residence asap

    + Ability to use the prop-rata basis and never be forced to use s118.192 to reset the costbase. This can be a concern for a recently acquired property as the market value could be LESS than historical cost
    + Pro-rata means you can use third element costs FOREVER. These are non-deductible ownership costs in the life of the propertty. basically all ownership costs except those thata deduction is claimed if the property is rented
    + The % of time will dilute over time. eg Three months is 3/12 in a year and 3/120th in ten. and so on. THEN with the third element costs the profit subject to the small pro-rata will be even smaller.

    - Record keeping. Those that know will keep these records.
     
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