Calls for "Australian Made" Products

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  1. random

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    Ahh , tbh all great men/women , companies get told the nice long list of why they can't do it, but they do it anyway and then the tellers end up idolizing them , and people write books about how great they are.
    Costs and red tape , this is the bs goverments have to get rid of here , that's the ball and chain around everyones neck in Australia, nanny stated and costed to death. lt's in everything we do here.

    Even some people os trying to come home with pets right now, NZ's offered to fly them back because all the bs just isn't good enough for Australia and they won't do it. Once again showed up buy a country 1/5th our population in much hader circumstances than Australia. Well that's just typical, they want everything just oh too perfect and that strangles the place and specially business, l know l've been in it 30yrs, same my brother same my dad . My brothers gone from employing 12 people to just him and his partner after 20yrs, they just made it so damn ridiculous to employ people he had to lay them off. Dad had to close his after 45 years they just strangled it so much it wasn't viable anymore, nother very common story.
    Got friends migrated here been trying to set up a business 6yrs, they can't believe it. They've lived all over the world with their business and never seen anything like it. And that's pretty typical too and another reason we lose so many companies.
     
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  2. random

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    True just bloody rubbish these days , but l think they use Bangaldesh , however that's spelt.
     
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    lt's hopeless, just watched some female minister talking about manufacturing . They still don;t get it , clueless. Their solution factories and companies squeeze even harder to try and make it viable and basically the only thing the govs gonna do it try to keep their power costs down , that was her solution.
    Oh , and update their equipment to be compete better, which is only gonna scew them into the dirt even more so that many won't even be able to get off the ground because it already costs so much that'll only double it.
    And then she says , and if people wanna pay less they can just buy imported stuff.
    Bloody hell , l wish l could swear without getting the boot,,,no idea.
     
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    A lot of high end T-shirts and cotton wear are made in bangladesh ~ sometimes in killer conditions. Check the label.

    The Y-man.
     
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    The frontier for Japanese manufacturing corporations is moving away from China, Thailand, Indonesia, Philippines and Vietnam (all getting too expensive) and moving into Myanmar and Cambodia.

    The Y-man
     
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    Make new agreements with countries of similar values or where opportunities align, surely it wasn't just Australia affected by COVID-19?
    Provide incentives for our businesses to move say to other destinations.

    The Chinese word for "crisis" (simplified Chinese: 危机; traditional Chinese: 危機; pinyin: wēijī (Mainland), wéijī (Taiwan)) is frequently invoked in Western motivational speaking as being composed of two Chinese characters signifying "danger" and "opportunity" respectively.

    So CRISIS can represent 'DANGER' or 'OPPORTUNITY'.

    Even if we look at past history we can learn and see there were many dangers but also many opportunities for those that knew how to take them.
     
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    l reckon Morrisons just done what so many others did , from Howard on and made too bigger deal of that damn inquiry and now today big noted himself and took all the credit globally , damn fool . What he should've done is just quietly bought it up with Who but let them take the wrap, That way China wouldn't crack it at us and we keep the business coming out of covid , because we;re gonna need everything we can get for the next 12 mths. But nooooo, he just couldn't help trying to be the Americans of down under. Exactly what Howard did trying to push everyone around and alienating our neighbours, nz included and stuck a big red target on us, hence Bali.

    But , on the other hand if we move away from so much China codependency , might be a good thing because that's getting crazy gives them too bigger hold on us and they know it use it. But what a stupid bloody way and time to do it.
     
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    Yeah seen them , bloody disgusting once there was a report Kmart pays them 20c an hr.
     
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    While the lesson might be there, the linguistics are not quite correct.

    The first part of the explanation looks to come from Wikipedia
    Chinese word for "crisis" - Wikipedia

    However, further along in the same article, there is a heading "Popular mistranslation":

    it could be somewhat misleading and biased to translate 机 (jī) in the context of the word wēijī to "opportunity" instead of "a changing point" or "a confidential event".

    See also www.pinyin.info/chinese/crisis.html
     
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    Either way money is not lost, wealth is not lost, it is transferred hence some in crisis will see opportunities and take them, that was the main point, not the details about the details of interpretations.
    Like in property investing...we can concentrate on DETAILS, how hard it is, dealing with agents, buying process, maintenance along the way, changes to rules and regulations and laws, finance changes, etc...or we can concentrate on THE BIG PICTURE, what it does say after 30 years or so, after compound growth did it's thing.
     
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    Now they've decided casuals should get hol, sick and long service pay too. That should just about be the straw that breaks the camels back for small business in Aus and what manufacturing we have left.
    l've been using casuals for yrs , no way l will anymore now , not above the table that's for sure.
    They get a higher or negotiated rate to comp that anyway but doing it that way is just gonna be more costs and red tape and legals that are the very thing already strangling business in this country.
     
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    In Qld casuals have been entitled to pro rata long service leave since the mid 1990s and some larger EBAs already have casuals accumulation pro rata sick leave
     
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    Casuals in NSW accumulate long service leave too (it wasn't the case once); however they don't get public holidays, annual or sick leave. The casual rate, at 25% higher than the permanent rate, should compensate for this.
     
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    Yeah right , but exactly and it's 10x simpler just doing it that way the last thing our businesses need is more bs..
     
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    Saw on some news clip the UK is selling boomerangs to Australia , wth ? That's just wrong on so many levels.
     
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    I don't have a comeback.
     
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    Although I'm all for Australian made ... and will buy Australian wherever possible, even at a higher cost ... people have to remember that bringing manufacturing back to Australia doesn't mean bringing back manufacturing jobs

    Companies will return to our shores due to government stability, lower transport costs, secure supply chains, humanities and climate change ... but not at the added expense of wages

    Automation is getting cheaper every year, so the jobs that return, after the initial manufacturing of the facility, will be the very few, overseeing technical jobs of process engineering, technical servicing and operations. Only have to look at every other, previously labour intensive industry, from agriculture to mining to fabrication, to realise the jobs no longer exist ... however ... I will still but Australian made as first choice

    Just don't be fooled into believing we can go backwards to a period of manufacturing employment
     
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    This is not a political (as such) video ... but explains succinctly what I've been trying to say about manufacturing jobs not returning - the industry will return onshore, but the jobs won't (other than robot technicians and process operators sitting in the control room)

     
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