Buying Property during x-mas - Love it or hate it?

Discussion in 'The Buying & Selling Process' started by Lisa Parker, 9th Nov, 2015.

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  1. R377

    R377 Well-Known Member

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    I am not an expert but I would have to assume there would be less buyers out on a 43 degree day a week or two before xmas ? (perth and adelaide usually have some really hot spells)
     
  2. R377

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    Has anyone been to any home inspections on AFL or NRL grand final day ?
     
  3. Rugrat

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    We are moving out of our PPOR and are going to sell it. We are actually going to hold it until January before it gets put on the market properly, specifically because January and February are a much much better time to sell property here in canberra.
     
  4. Jacque

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    Absolutely and we search right up until Xmas Eve for our clients (and ourselves if in the market) - sometimes there are great deals to be had, whilst everyone else is out shopping for smaller assets :p
     
  5. Chilliblue

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    In the 2121 postcode Cheltenham Girls High School and Epping Boys require 12 months and yes they can reject you as the core local high school is Carlingford.
     
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    No but had to take a reluctant partner to several weddings and one christening
     
  7. Rumplestiltskin

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    They do not in anyway have to accept a child when they are at capacity or if the child does not reside in the zone at the beginning of the enrolment process.
    Below regarding Rossmoyne Senior High School In Perth:
    If you'll provide proof that NSW operates in a different way I'll be glad to hear it, otherwise it's just bunkem. :rolleyes:

    For Local Intake enrolments, the key requirements are:

    Residence in the Local Intake Area

    • The school provides places for students whose families are residing within the boundaries of the Rossmoyne Senior High School local intake area at the time that the enrolment commences. The boundaries are as determined by the Department of Education of Western Australia. A map of this area is available on the website or from School Reception. Proof of residency within the Local Intake area is required.
    Note that:
    1. Continued enrolment at Rossmoyne Senior High School is not assured where a family changes residence outside the school boundary.
    2. Siblings are not assured enrolment at the school where the family is residing outside the school boundary at the time of the siblings enrolment.
     
  8. D.T.

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    There was hardly any from memory.
     
  9. Rumplestiltskin

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    Shenton College operates in a similar way.
    Deadlines for Enrolments are 1st week of Term 3 and enrolment are only possible while they have capacity.
     
  10. inertia

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    They are a bit of a unique situation, and part of the same problem with public selective schools - something I think is a bad idea. And they still give preference to the kids living closest.

    The great school scam

    As you said, the "core" local high school is Carlingford.

    Cheers,
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  11. inertia

    inertia Well-Known Member

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    Nothing you've quoted says anything about mid-year enrolments, only that the kid needs to be local, which is the same as what I said. A quick google suggests the school you quoted reduced its intake area (presumably as it was not able to meet demand, and other local schools were). There were also suggestions they game the system by dissuading under-performing kids from sitting the HSC or whatever it is called these days.

    From NSW department of education:
    "...Please note that specialist schools, schools with specific programs and placement panels will have additional application requirements..."

    and

    "...If no place is available at any of the schools you have requested, your child will be placed in the local school listed in Section B, subject to acceptance of your application to enrol by that school..."

    So yes, if you are going for a selective, special, or out of zone school, you may not get in, but you kid will be admitted to the local public school.

    As I mentioned in a previous reply, I don't think there should be public selective or special schools. Newcastle High is a great example. As I understand it, there is perception that is isn't doing very well, but look at the context. High academic achievers go to Merewether, Artistic types go to Broadmeadow, many high socio-econimic kids will go to Grammar...There are the main indicators of success gone right there.

    Cheers,
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  12. RPI

    RPI SDA Provider, Town Planner, Former Property Lawyer

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    It's always the solicitors that are the problems at this time. Tradition was to shut down for a long time, hard for many to break that habit
     
  13. Rumplestiltskin

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    What you've done now is shifted the goal posts to counter the originally incorrect statement.

    For what it's worth, the suggestion was that people will start looking in January in the area where they want their kids to go to school.

    I've shown you not one but 2 examples of how this is fraught with risk.
    Neither Rossmoyne SHS, Shenton College are selective public schools which you've suggested.
    As I've shown, you have to be in the zone at the beginning of the enrolment process, which is a long way before January.
    No spots are guaranteed beyond this even if a child is in the zone later on as numbers dictate this isn't always possible.
    So why would people wait until January to move into a specific school zone, with a strong possibility their child would be forced to go to an alternative school?:confused:
    It is simply nonsensical. :rolleyes:
    Shifting to the public selective/ special school debate is digressing from the original statement because neither of the schools mentioned fit that description.
     
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    Here's yet another example.
    Churchlands Senior High School:

    Associate Principal visits in boundary primary schools and hands out an enrolment pack to prospective students at the end of Term 2.

    Due to the high demand for places at the school the Department of Education has designated Churchlands SHS as a local intake area school. Students must therefore live within the school boundaries.


    Families living within our intake area are invited to enrol their children as local intake students. To see if you live within our local intake area boundary, and a description of our boundaries please click here.


    To assist the school to determine the student’s eligibility under this enrolment criterion, the following supporting documentation should accompany the application for enrolment:
    • Proof of ownership of the property by the parent/s where the student usually resides. This will be a rates notices from the local council
    • Where the family is in a rental property, a copy of the rental agreement. This agreement must be for a period of a minimum of 12months and be with a registered Real Estate Agent. (No Post Office style agreement is accepted)

    Applicants must also provide a minimum of 2 further pieces of evidence to confirm their residential address. These may include:
    • Power accounts
    • Gas Accounts
    • Telephone accounts
    • Current bank statements showing the address
    • Drivers License
    • Removalist documents
    • Any other documents that may support the application as proof of residence


    Statutory Declarations will not be accepted in the case of living with a friend or relative


    It is essential that the school is informed immediately of any change of particulars (e.g. address of usual place of residence, phone number/s, court orders or details of guardianship). It is vital that all the information provided is accurate and updated
     
  15. Azazel

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    Outside of the 9 Winter months in Canbrrr is probably a good idea ;)
     
  16. inertia

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    None of that says a mid year enrollment wont be accepted - it is just enforcing the in-zone rules.
    Applicable to your other response too.

    Cheers,
    Inertia
     
  17. Rumplestiltskin

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    You didn't address anything.
    The initial statement was that a house could be found in January, merely weeks or even less prior to the commencement of the school year and the children would still be eligible and have to be accepted in to the school.
    I've shown you that simply isn't the case, it's absolute bunkem.
    Nothing you've said is applicable because January isn't in the middle of the school year.
    What use is a mid year enrolment if the school already has maximum numbers.
    You're simply tiptoeing now because you never read or comprehended the thread.

    Try again, I would suggest producing some criteria from the school itself as I have done. :D
    Credibility isn't in the high region without it.
     
  18. Azazel

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    What's all this got to do with buying at xmas?
     
  19. Rumplestiltskin

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    I'd like to know which highly sought after public high schools allow parents to be the recipients of their attributes without paying the dues of living in the zones and adhering to their criteria for enrolment.
    So far you haven't mentioned any. Just hot air.
     
  20. inertia

    inertia Well-Known Member

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    Nothing you have quoted has said anything about a normal school rejecting in-zone students.

    Here's some quotes for you:
    "Children are entitled to be enrolled at the government school that is designated for the intake area within which the child’s home is situated and that the child is eligible to attend."

    "Within the enrolment ceiling, a buffer will be determined to accommodate local students arriving throughout the year. The size of the buffer will be based on historical data, on enrolment fluctuations and on the number of families moving into or out of the area. In the case of high schools, the number of students exiting Intensive English Centres should be taken into account, when appropriate. Places in the buffer are not to be offered to non-local students."

    https://www.det.nsw.edu.au/policies...nt/enrolpol/pd02_06_enrolment_of_students.pdf

    Refusal is all about out of zoners.

    Cheers,
    Inertia.