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Discussion in 'Development' started by Elives, 13th Sep, 2015.

  1. Elives

    Elives Well-Known Member

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    how do i educate myself and get a understanding on "zonings" and what is possible to do on certain blocks

    i'm from brissy and would like to get into development but it seems so confusing with all the different zonings and what not. also i saw this property listed it was a 810m2 but when i checked RP data it said it was on 2 different blocks 405m2 each. is this value? or is that normal for brissy areas?

    how much roughly does it cost to subdivide a 810m2 block in brissy?

    with the listing i saw the house is at the front of the property but the blocks are cut down the middle? so the house is on both blocks. in this situation what would be the best development strategy?

    Cheers, Elives
     
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  2. D.T.

    D.T. Adelaide Property Manager Business Member

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    There's both state and council info.
    Then there's the numbers.

    I recommend you research state stuff first. This is R Codes in WA but is different in each. Then, study one council at a time to learn about what their minimum block size is, what they allow and what streets they allow it in. This should all be in the council website.

    For numbers, you need to know how much it costs in your area to subdivide and how much it costs to build. You should also look up on real estate sites how much the end products sell for or rent for. Once you know all that, you'll be able to tell if the cost of a site (add demolition costs as necessary) is worthwhile.

    Review other people's development stories on here too. There's small ones like mine and big ones like Westminster and plenty in between. Hopefully you can pick up a tidbit from each.
     
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    beachgurl Well-Known Member

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    Houses on 810sq generally need to be knocked down or moved across the block for the land to be developed. Each council has a number to call to ask questions. Some councils also have very good information on their websites.

    It would be easy for you for someone on here to give you all the answers but then you wouldn't have any solid grounding to repeat the process later. Call the council hotline and ask a few questions. Once you get that info you will have more in depth questions to ask. Keep calling until you know enough to work out what's involved.
     
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  4. Leo2413

    Leo2413 Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Some councils know me on a first name basis. As soon as they hear my voice their enthusiasm sinks :D
     
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  5. Elives

    Elives Well-Known Member

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    i've checked out the bcc website and found it quite handy for figuring out what a property is zoned and what can be built on it. my next question though is...

    atm i'm checking every property i find to see what the zoning is which is really time consuming. there must be an easier way to know what a property is without having to search every single one?

    etc if theres 4 townhouses on the same street i'd think on the same block you could do the same development. is there any easier way of searching for potential development sites? how does one find splitter blocks? i'm thinking this would be the easiest type of development?

    Cheers, Elives
     
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  6. Heinz57

    Heinz57 Well-Known Member

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    Elives you get automatic 'likes' for calling yourself a "beginner" instead of a "newbie" (aaaaargggh)

    And I suspect you know a lot more than most beginners..

    I would seriously talk to a real town planner, make an appointment and ask him or her for the most convenient time. The guys at council are really helpful if you show up with a list of questions and are prepared to listen. Have your questions ready.

    I have recently been involved with an industrial site at Logan and Mayor Pam cleared time in her schedule to talk to us. We broke ground the same month.

    You are bringing jobs and money to this community by building -you can't do that on the web
     
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    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

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    That's novel - enthusiastic councils. Where do you find them?
     
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  8. AndrewTDP

    AndrewTDP Urban Planning Consultant Business Member

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    Not in Sydney.
     
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  9. Gockie

    Gockie I'm an ISTP-A female, so I might be a bit quirky! Premium Member

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    I went to the Redlands council to talk about what I can do on my land... the guy was very helpful. He said I sounded like I knew what I was doing. I think hmmm... not really. I know a little, not heaps though. Through chatting I find out he had only worked there for maybe 6 months. But for a guy who had only been working there for about 6 months he was quite good at showing me what I could possibly do with my land. I am waiting for the Redlands council 2015 plan to be finalised and released though. The draft plan is scheduled for public release tomorrow and it's open for public feedback for 54 business days. I can't wait to see it.
     
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    beachgurl Well-Known Member

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    When I was head down in the Sydney market I'd visit the local council and the town planner would look at me and say "oh, you again".
     
  11. Be Developer

    Be Developer Property Developer Business Member

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    @Elives

    zoning of the land in BCC, use this link (PD online)

    http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/planning-building/buying-selling-searches/researching-property

    if property is already subdivided on two lots, it wont cost you anything

    if not,

    Allow $50K (may cost less or more)

    If you are unsure how to check(If it subdivided or not), your solicitor can help you with that.


    there is half a dozen other thing to be taken care of but simple answer is,

    You can arrange to slide the house on block (If possible) and build on others.

    or

    Demolish existing and build 2 new ones.

    for that half dozen other thing, i can recommend @RPI . His town planning firm does excellent job at providing detailed report at minimal cost.

    Hope this help!
     
  12. Elives

    Elives Well-Known Member

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    what do you mean "build on others"

    like i said the house is at the front in centre of the 2 blocks. the blocks are 20mx40m. could you move the property to the back dead centre and build another one at the front? or because the lots how they are you could only move it onto 1 lot etc.

    reason i ask is i think the house may be to wide for 1 lot.