Health & Family Baby Formula

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  1. D.T.

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    Then what is a free market?
     
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    One where you don't pay rent for your stall.
     
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    DT, I think the service you provide is fantastic, its definitely cheaper than an airfare to ADL. However I'm sure the thought that passes through your client's minds is "what's stopping him from buying the property before i do" - it is a free market after all.

    I guess the answer there is business ethics, in which you would heavily reassure them of. I'm sure if there was a site you checked out that met your needs, you would refrain from buying unless your client had stated they were no longer interested and you sought permission from them that it was ok for you to purchase.

    Its the same concept that proper buyers agent employ - don't take on clients with the similar requirements.
     
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    Not really comparable since an agent's conflict of interest is written into the Land Agents Act in black and white. There's no legislation regarding what you do with products off a retailer's shelf once you buy them.
     
  5. neK

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    Sorry DT, i find it hard to believe that in the event that piece of legislation was missing that you would change how you operate. I actually believe you would do the right thing regardless.

    Whether the legislation exists on certain things or not, it is the ethics of the individual as to what they believe is right.
     
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    So you don't agree with the corner store or take away buying soft drinks when they're on special at the supermarket because it's cheaper than their wholesale supplier?
     
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    Of course that is unacceptable. Afterall that stock has been allocated to supermarket customers! The corner Deli can't be buying that stock, otherwise what happens if the supermarket customers go thirsty and have to resort to a healthy, non-teeth destroying beverage? Someone think of the kids :rolleyes:

    Can I suggest we all just agree to disagree?
     
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  8. neK

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    They should have their own distribution agreement and should complain to their wholesaler. Customers of the corner store buying the soft drink already know they are going to pay more at the corner store than woolies/coles, so for the corner store owner, buying the soft drink when its on special at the supermarket really does is increase their bottom line profit margin

    Sure it does annoy me a little when i see people going to the checkout with an entire trolley full of coke, especially when i want some, but its comparing soft drink to baby formula. Babies need to have their milk, its not exactly negotiable (those with kids will understand what I am referring to).

    One of the other differences is that soft drink if not available at coles or woolies, can still be obtained at petrol stations and other chains. When i say the milk powder is out, I'm talking about it not being available at pharmacies, supermarkets, baby stores for 2 weeks or so

    That said, if we're comparing concepts, how about comparing BA's - eg Nathan Birch... oh wait, there's a whole thread already dedicated to that ;)
     
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    I've never had formula and I turned out okay.
     
  10. neK

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    Perhaps your mother was able to continue to produce milk for longer periods than others. You're lucky. Not every mother has the ability to do so. Some mothers have to go straight to formula because they can't produce enough milk.

    Also, it does state clearly that breast milk is better on the sites that produce and sell formula :)
     
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    For others it is a choice/other forced necessity.
     
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    DT, again we might have to agree to disagree :p

    Hang on, you're first post you linked to a supply of baby formula on ebay. I just checked and it is still available for purchase? So there is a stock of baby powder available for purchase.

    I think what you meant to say was "its not available at the regular price, I would have to buy it at an inflated price"

    Which coincidentally happens to be the same as the soft drink - can't buy it cheaply at your local supermarket? Then just pay more per item at a petrol station.

    I can't tell which side of the fence you are on anymore? You're arguements now seem to support the sale of baby formula overseas?
     
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    You don't think that he never had formula?
     
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    @Waldo, you do realise that its an ebay link that refreshes with new listers right? The powder is back in stock at the supermarkets and I've bought what I need for now. I only hold a spare can and top up an extra 1 as required.

    At the time, the stores that had stock required me to buy 6 and didn't have a pick up option. The ones that have a local pick up option are now back in stock.

    That said, I'm interested in your opinion on this one, care to share your thoughts as to what you believe is ethically acceptable and not acceptable when its in relation to items that have a direct impact on babies?

    Also, if you read my posts, i do support the sale of powder overseas, as long as it is sourced from the wholesaler and does not impact what is on offer for the local market. My gripe is those who buy out what's at the supermarket and sell overseas.
     
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    NeK - that's been going on for years. We used to buy formula by the case but never sold it. Karicare was in demand, so were the other brands.
     
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    Scott, it wasn't for profit, it was for your own child. You bought up more so that you wouldn't run out. Makes sense. I'm sure if your friend had a child of a similar age that drank the same brand and they weren't able to source it, you would gladly offer it to them.
     
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    Before I share my opinion, can you clarify if you're refering to Australian babies or Chinese babies?

    And perhaps elaborate on why/how you chose one set of babies over the other one? I guess thats where I'm struggling to make a distinction.
     
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    So - what makes you think the "overseas" people aren't buying the baby formula for their own children, grandchildren, siblings children etc? Why is your concern for your child more valuable than their concern for theirs?

    I have a child - one that drank formula for a period of time - and don't have a hassle with the concept of ensuring child health worldwide, through whatever legal main available. Heck - I even bought it at the chemist several times.

    It sounds like you're having a dummy spit because you got caught short due to supply not meeting demand ... perhaps have your safety net as two spare cans cause babies can go thru that stuff pretty quickly.
     
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    @Lizzie - As I've said, my gripe is with those who choose to buy it from the retailer to resell as opposed to buying it from the wholesaler to resell.

    I could easily purchase an entire years supply and have it sitting there, however that would simply alleviate my situation, but not others.

    I make a conscious decision to buy only 1 spare given the nature of the supply distribution. The next can is purchased when the current can is down the last groove.
     
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    I'm not referring to any particular country of residence (or race) for a baby. My question was about babies in general.

    As I've said in previous posts, no baby is entitled to formula any more than another. I'm curious to know where you draw the line at capitalism.

    However given there are multiple scenarios and multiple answers, I'd be keen to understand your thoughts depending on the situation.