Average Share Portfolio Size

Discussion in 'Shares & Funds' started by MTR, 13th Apr, 2021.

Join Australia's most dynamic and respected property investment community
  1. MTR

    MTR Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    19th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    27,853
    Location:
    My World
    Please read post 1
     
    twisted strategies likes this.
  2. Scott No Mates

    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    27,224
    Location:
    Sydney or NSW or Australia
    Tell me more

    I'll introduce you to @SatayKing
     
  3. Lacrim

    Lacrim Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    25th Jul, 2015
    Posts:
    6,192
    Location:
    Australia
    Given the use of debt, my share portfolio is never going to be more than 10% of my property portfolio.

    The only way to rebalance is to switch asset classes ie sell props to buy shares. And you all know what the answer to that question is.
     
    twisted strategies likes this.
  4. MTR

    MTR Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    19th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    27,853
    Location:
    My World

    What:p
     
    twisted strategies likes this.
  5. Scott No Mates

    Scott No Mates Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    27,224
    Location:
    Sydney or NSW or Australia

    Or plough all of the net revenue from property into shares ;)
     
  6. Lacrim

    Lacrim Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    25th Jul, 2015
    Posts:
    6,192
    Location:
    Australia
    And the loans are serviced how?
     
    twisted strategies and skater like this.
  7. SatayKing

    SatayKing Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    20th Sep, 2017
    Posts:
    10,766
    Location:
    Extended Sabatical
    As it was the 5%, and they could afford it, I thought I'd give the goats a treat rather than using salt water.

    It really was a method of torture used in olden times. Goats have abrasive tongues.
     
    twisted strategies and Greedo like this.
  8. willair

    willair Well-Known Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    19th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    6,794
    Location:
    ....UKI nth nsw ....
    I think there is a post about the leveraged part,but that was a while back..
     
    twisted strategies and MTR like this.
  9. skater

    skater Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    10,256
    Location:
    Sydney? Gold Coast?
    So do cats. :p
     
    twisted strategies likes this.
  10. skater

    skater Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    18th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    10,256
    Location:
    Sydney? Gold Coast?
    I've sold down & put some into shares for an easier retirement.
     
    Observer, Silverson, Anne11 and 2 others like this.
  11. twisted strategies

    twisted strategies Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    1st Jul, 2015
    Posts:
    1,461
    Location:
    QLD

    if the market ( stock OR property ) really tanks borrowing money will probably tough work even if you had funds frozen in the bank ,

    but i guess the problem is how deep will be the drop ( and when )
     
  12. Lacrim

    Lacrim Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    25th Jul, 2015
    Posts:
    6,192
    Location:
    Australia
    Shares are def less maintenance than property but I like the quasi control I have over property.

    Plus if/when I retire, the properties and dealing with their headaches will be my version of Sudoku :D.

    Problem solving and a decent dose of good stress is healthy for the mind.
     
    ChrisP73, luckyP, skater and 2 others like this.
  13. jaybean

    jaybean Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    20th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    4,752
    Location:
    Here!
    That's not a bad way to look at it. Semi-managing a portfolio might give one something to occupy the mind during retirement.
     
    twisted strategies likes this.
  14. datto

    datto Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    23rd Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    6,675
    Location:
    Mt Druuiitt
    I was told that size doesn’t matter and just be happy with what I’ve got :(
     
    Ynot and twisted strategies like this.
  15. willair

    willair Well-Known Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    19th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    6,794
    Location:
    ....UKI nth nsw ....
    Who told you that?.
     
  16. datto

    datto Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    23rd Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    6,675
    Location:
    Mt Druuiitt
    A person who burst out laughing.
     
    Ynot, samiam, Niche and 3 others like this.
  17. twisted strategies

    twisted strategies Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    1st Jul, 2015
    Posts:
    1,461
    Location:
    QLD
    more fun than Netflix at my age ( wink )
     
  18. Piston_Broke

    Piston_Broke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    30th Jul, 2015
    Posts:
    4,124
    Location:
    Margaritaville
    Very small % for me atm.
    A good target? Billions!
    I think something I may have done differently was have around 20-30% of holding in equities.
    Mostly my MO was 5% spec/high risk and not more than 10% in shares.
    But smear my feet in honey and let the goats out I was always 95 or more in RE.

    The end game is not like the opening or middle game.
    He mainly posted about ETFs and LICs (end game), after the huge gains.
     
    MWI, Observer, Silverson and 4 others like this.
  19. SatayKing

    SatayKing Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    20th Sep, 2017
    Posts:
    10,766
    Location:
    Extended Sabatical
    @Piston_Broke a thought just came to mind. It also applies to @MTR if she is following this thread.

    I apologise if I am telling you to suck eggs. However, if you do invest via ETFs, be aware the product provider will issue an Annual Tax Statement around late-July or early-August each year. These are required to complete your tax return as they will show each component of the distribution.

    It will look something like this but have actual dollar amounts.

    https://www.asx.com.au/asx/statistics/displayAnnouncement.do?display=pdf&idsId=02250983

    But keep it until, or if, you sell as it will also show any cost-base adjustment for that year and that will need to be taken into account in the year you sell. As far as I know that figure is not shown on the distribution statements or on any ASX announcement.

    Unlike dividends, when an ETF makes an end-of-year distribution sometime in July, that is included in the tax return for the previous year not when payment is made to your account. Accrual applies.
     
  20. Ruby Tuesday

    Ruby Tuesday Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    8th Mar, 2021
    Posts:
    1,479
    Location:
    Danistan
    The average of my share portfolio's is about 400k, I think they get a bit unwieldly over that The largest is 800k mostly Au high growth which I may reduce next FY, Have US high growth, AU Dividend to supplement rent and servicing, Have a small spec portfolio. Have some Global growth and Small cap managed funds I consider a portfolio which may eventually have most of liquid capital directed to it for set and forget, and an unlisted company worth a bit but hard to sell out of without 70% approval and a buyer. I sell down shares to buy or put deposit on property then use equity to rebuy shares. Seems to be 30 to 40% of property value in shares is a good balance and works well.
     
    Codie and twisted strategies like this.