Australia falls into per-capita recession

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  1. LibGS

    LibGS Well-Known Member

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    Federal Treasury scolds Coalition for exaggerating impact of Labor's negative gearing overhaul

    https://www.rba.gov.au/publications...17/pdf/rba-workshop-2017-simon-cho-may-li.pdf
     
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    56%, but hey why let facts get in the way of a good opinion :)
    http://csrm.cass.anu.edu.au/sites/default/files/rsss/Net taxpayers.pdf

    Remember only 25% of posters use facts. The other 75%, well...

     
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    So why ask:? Good googling skills.


    50% of the country pays no tax

    This varies from media you listen to.
    the next 25% pay sweet **** all.

    The last 25% and cooperation's pay most of the tax.



    So under Labor the people that pay the least or not at all will benefit. Always the case
     
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    Oh...like another Bretton Woods agreement? That worked out awesome.
     
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    Well it just happens that nominal GDP is the convention (but not a very good one) for measuring a countries economic growth. As most developed countries have relatively stable populations it's not too misleading but in our case we have 1.6% a year population growth which is twice the OECD average and which artificially boosts GDP. Ie it is like an accounting trick.

    PS: you have to be living under a rock to know the average person is not getter ahead, so GDP per capita is more in line with our lived experience.
     
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    ^ Very well said.. the "real" GDP print last quarter was 0.2% which is very much bordering on recessionary type conditions anyway.

    Another article: Australia just entered recession on a per capita basis

    Also, from the above, much of the growth was purely due to public spending (which obviously the government can tinker with). I expect if Labor gets in they will reveal many "big ticket" public spending initiatives to try and head off a "real" recession under their watch.

    This current quarter may be saved due to Iron Ore royalties have been high due to Vale disasters which may keep GDP running a little higher too -> Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
     
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    There does seem to be a lot of alarms going off at the moment.... This GDP recession thing, the Syd/Melbourne housing bust is bigger than most people were expecting...and China is revising down its growth.

    I am no economist but the bad news seems to outweigh the good right now.
     
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    Its called market sentiment which is negative, in particular property. When this happens fear sets in and investors sit on their hands

    Thats why I say...... don’t buy property in 2019
     
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    Why do you object to the term "per-capita" recession? It is just another indicator, and others have mentioned, would reflect the median situation better than the conventional recession definition. I would say it is reflecting the increasing disparity of wealth.

    Cheers,
    Inertia.
     
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