Anyone ready for another round - all new Swine Flu

Discussion in 'Living Room' started by Lizzie, 1st Jul, 2020.

Join Australia's most dynamic and respected property investment community
  1. Lizzie

    Lizzie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    9th Jul, 2015
    Posts:
    9,625
    Location:
    Planet A
    Lizzie, 1st Jul, 2020
    #1
  2. Simon Hampel

    Simon Hampel Founder Staff Member

    Joined:
    3rd Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    12,412
    Location:
    Sydney
    Last year this "news" would not have gained any attention at all - it's hardly news. There is no outbreak - there may never be an outbreak.

    It's only being pushed now for the clickbait headlines it gives.

    Ironically, if we have to have a new Swine flu outbreak, now would be the ideal time for it - because it would have limited impact given the restrictions already in place (or able to be put in place) in many areas.
     
    Simon Hampel, 1st Jul, 2020
    #2
  3. Lizzie

    Lizzie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    9th Jul, 2015
    Posts:
    9,625
    Location:
    Planet A
    I'm actually quite surprised it hasn't jumped already - given the worldwide number of cases, and the close proximity to humans
     
    Lizzie, 1st Jul, 2020
    #3
  4. MTR

    MTR Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    19th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    27,851
    Location:
    My World
    MTR, 6th Jul, 2020
    #4
    Marg4000 likes this.
  5. datto

    datto Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    23rd Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    6,675
    Location:
    Mt Druuiitt
    Swine flu? I'll have mine with some apple sauce thanks.
     
    datto, 6th Jul, 2020
    #5
    Scott No Mates likes this.
  6. Lizzie

    Lizzie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    9th Jul, 2015
    Posts:
    9,625
    Location:
    Planet A
    Lizzie, 6th Jul, 2020
    #6
  7. Simon Hampel

    Simon Hampel Founder Staff Member

    Joined:
    3rd Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    12,412
    Location:
    Sydney
    Bubonic Plague has always been around.

    From Wikipedia:

    Globally between 2010 and 2015 there were 3248 documented cases, which resulted in 584 deaths. The countries with the greatest number of cases are the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Madagascar, and Peru.

    ...

    Between 1900 and 2015, the United States had 1,036 human plague cases with an average of 9 cases per year. In 2015, 16 people in the Western United States developed plague, including 2 cases in Yosemite National Park. These US cases usually occur in rural northern New Mexico, northern Arizona, southern Colorado, California, southern Oregon, and far western Nevada.
    ​
    What I didn't realise is that unless you get treatment (with appropriate antibiotics) within 24 hours of symptoms appearing, your chances of death greatly increase. "Mortality associated with treated cases of bubonic plague is about 1–15%, compared to a mortality of 40–60% in untreated cases".

    It's still a very deadly disease - we're just generally better at managing and treating it now.
     
    Simon Hampel, 7th Jul, 2020
    #7
    wylie and Lizzie like this.
  8. Mark F

    Mark F Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    29th Jan, 2020
    Posts:
    1,033
    Location:
    Canberra
    Mark F, 7th Jul, 2020
    #8
  9. MTR

    MTR Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    19th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    27,851
    Location:
    My World
    How do you get unbiased media, impossible

    here is CBS, we could say US agenda??

    however, there are many media platforms reporting on this? Tells me something

    China reports case of suspected bubonic plague
     
    Last edited: 7th Jul, 2020
    MTR, 7th Jul, 2020
    #9
  10. MTR

    MTR Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    19th Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    27,851
    Location:
    My World
    Whats interesting is corona has made people much more aware of virus’, just google, there is a hell of alot of scary info/stats out there

    The problem is we may also all get consumed and paranoid about this when we really dont need to
     
    MTR, 7th Jul, 2020
    #10
  11. Lizzie

    Lizzie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    9th Jul, 2015
    Posts:
    9,625
    Location:
    Planet A
    Interesting ... the bubonic plague had been found to have been around since before bronze age (dna testing in mass grave bodies) ... is a bacteria so easily treatable with antibiotics is caught early ... not infectious til one is really crook ... is normally spread via flea bites from infectious rats (not a usual household companion nowadays) ... and there are around 20ish cases detected each year
     
    Lizzie, 11th Jul, 2020
    #11
  12. datto

    datto Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    23rd Jun, 2015
    Posts:
    6,675
    Location:
    Mt Druuiitt
    I think the great fire of London got rid of the plague. It cleaned the place right up.

    Another interesting thing I read was as the plague was going through Europe, people were selling their house on the cheap and fleeing. The fella buying up was Mr Krupp. His descendants later got into iron and steel.

    During WW2 that company made a killing manufacturing armaments for Germany.

    It just goes to show that there is money to be made in troubled times.
     
    datto, 11th Jul, 2020
    #12
    Cousinit likes this.
  13. Lizzie

    Lizzie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    9th Jul, 2015
    Posts:
    9,625
    Location:
    Planet A
    Cause it killed all the rats ... and their associated fleas
     
    Lizzie, 11th Jul, 2020
    #13
    datto likes this.