Cars & Motorbikes Any Electric Car Enthusiasts Here?

I didn’t own my first car till I was 40, but have owned over 200 in the last 19 years to make up for it. I shared a Tarago with my wife till 8 weeks before my 40th birthday.
The deal was first we own our dream home outright,
Then she gets a B I G NEW ring,
Then I get my own car then
(She added this bit)
She ****** off with a man 15 years younger and half the money I’d saved. Lol

 

I bought my AMG specifically so I could experience being pushed into my seat .... That's one of the reason people purchase crazy powerful cars isn't it ? ie Joy. Sound. Excitement. I didnt buy it to hit 320KM/H. But it's something else to drive a car that constantly feels like it wants to be let off the leash. With enough power underfoot to know you always have more. And not just in a straight line like Tesla. I get that Tesla builds fast straight line cars . But do they wake your senses? That AMG SOUND..... from the moment you press the start button .... wow! But my previous car was a Honda Accord Euro Luxury (hence Euro73) and it was a fantastic car. Reliable. Comfy. Before that I owned a Toyota Liteace, a Mitsubishi Verada and my very first car outta high school was a Chrysler lancer . I think owning one or more inexpensive, under powered or uncool cars before rewarding yourself with something a little more special , makes you appreciate the special cars more. Im sure that in time, as EV's evolve, companies like AMG and BMW's M division , Porsche , Ferrari etc will generate synthetic engine soundtracks into the cars....

 

Just face it @euro73, you are completely wrong. The sky is azure.

Cheers,
Inertia.

 

I like cars, I really do. I even like fast cars, but I see zero point in driving one on a public road.
I also detest status symbols of any type, so I'll never own an AMG (I'm not implying that you own it as a status symbol, but a fair few AMG owners do).
For that reason, if I was ever to buy an expensive car, I'd make sure to make it look like this!



I'm not saying that others shouldn't buy fancy or fast cars (though I'm definitely saying that people shouldn't drive annoyingly loud cars), just does nothing for me, unless it's on a track.

 

I doubt anything could beat the seat-pushability of a Tesla. It is quite different to any other powerful car I've been in - no lag, instant GO!

However, the C63 AMG would have to be one of the best sounding cars around Tesla cant compete there!

Cheers,
Inertia.

 

yea Tesla can’t compete if people like their cars loud and slow!

 

Why not have the best of both ?
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjANegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw3HB17voud-pCPrUfN3V1Fe

Make your Tesla sound like a Ferrari (inside at least ) !
Let me guess, Tesla don't have a 12v socket..........

 

Tesla’s are quick . Really quick ..... insanely quick .... to about 150-160km/hr. nothing comes close to the launch speed they offer. But after that , any half decent performance car will gobble them up . That’s something you won’t ever see happen here with our speed limits , but the big Germans and Italians will eat them daily on the Autobahn

For me , from a driving perspective ( not an environmental perspective) they offer little thrill aside from the ability to launch quickly . The interior doesn’t feel special. The lack of a soundtrack makes driving boring . Totally deprives drivers of any sensory stimulation - and a nice cockpit and soundtrack are absolutely part of the “experience” of driving . Pretending they aren’t is “ludicrous “. That’s before you read the countless bad reviews about paint and build quality , resale and after sales ...

None of these things are criticisms - just observations . It’s what should be happening with a young company , finding its way . As I have said repeatedly , EVs are the future and Tesla are the pioneers , and that’s all good .... But old mate seems to be incapable of understanding that EVs are still an immature tech and the argument doesn’t ( and won’t ever ) begin or end with Tesla’s offering alone ...... there will be plenty of advancement in the space in the coming few years and plenty of competitors stealing EV market share from Tesla soon enough , as a result of that. And that’s when mass acceptance will start to happen. My prediction is that hybrids will take off much sooner than EV and will outsell EV until range and charge times and price are sorted

 

I think you hit the nail on the head with your comments. Also the "heat up the batteries for 20 mins routine" to get peak performance is a bit of a joke. I keep saying a great car for party tricks, I particularly love the self closing "fuel flap" as you walk away with the "filler hose". I think the Ys and Millennials love the S,3,X,Y, the LUDICROUS and the PLAID but as a Boomer, I find them a bit naff. I prefer more honesty in the spruiking of the vehicles as you dont get the hype in New Ferrari, Porsche or Trabant sales.

 

To be fair, it is as Musk planned. Previously EVs were slow and efficient and in no way sexy. He set out to build ridiculously fast, capable, blingy cars to draw attention to the market and show what they are capable of. He has succeeded. The skim marketing approach is working. Everything just gets better and cheaper from here.

I have a couple of mates that have bought the 3, and I've had a drive. Its very impressive, but its not for me. I would have to have a ludicrous amount of money to spend that much on a car, and it would have to fulfil most of my needs. My current car is 15 years old, worth about $7k, and I'm struggling to justify replacing it. The only reason I am replacing it is because I want a proper 4x4.

When my kids are old enough to learn to drive (1st will be in 5 years), maybe we could justify a second car, but even then I don't think it will be brand new. Maybe the current model 3 will be a bargain in 5 years? I'm sure the software updates between now and then will be quite impressive, and if it needs a new battery, the tech should have evolved a bit there too.

In the meantime, I'll continue using our e-assist cargo bike as our primary mode of transport

Cheers,
Inertia

 

This is what auto industry has made us believe .. we now think we have a lot of automotive needs and each can be fulfilled by certain car brands. Some of the emotional reasoning people use to justify spending a great deal of money on some cars defies common sense on any level but auto brand managers have been extremely successful at brainwashing baby boomers.

A cars’ job is to transport people across SAFELY, CHEAPLY, QUICKLY and with least cost to the environment. A Tesla wins at all the above and upfront acquisition cost continues to come down so it’s a no brainer for millennials to fall in love with the brand.

Now with regards to why Tesla’s fast start is important - our roads could accommodate up to 50% more cars if cars became more efficient and quicker at ‘start stop start’ dance at intersections. Tesla now automatically stops at traffic signals for you with latest M3 software update and we aren’t far from seeing a software update which would automatically make the car go at traffic lights.

Some people will never get Tesla concept because they want their cars to fulfill needs cars aren’t meant to be fulfilling.

 

I'm guessing a base model 3 will be somewhere under 30k in that time. If they hold closer to the 40's that would make it pretty good depreciation compared to their price bracket.

Most cars 60k+ depreciate frighteningly quickly..

 

Tesla dropping to Hyundai price points is possible once FSD kicks in and people are able to put their unused car capacity into a sharing pool hence fewer cars needed for the society.

Current ICE cars will then sell by kilos - merely for scrap materials if China desired or may be get reconditioned to sell in markets like India and Bangladesh.

Japan is already an example of this - aging population and public transport infrastructure improvements has resulted in massive oversupply of ICE cars with shiploads being sold to highly populated countries.

A lot of baby boomers industries are finding new homes in developing countries like Tobacco, Alcohol, Soda and Automobile is next!!

 

They may never need to learn to drive .. my kids have same timeframe I am really hoping human drivers are redundant by then.

 

But who are you to tell anyone what needs a car should fulfill? The person forking out their hard earned gets to make that decision. If someone wants a sports car and can afford it, that's their prerogative. If someone wants a ute or pickup or SUV or hybrid or EV, same story. And its not just baby boomers who like variety. Every generation of driver has their preferences.

If that's how things should roll....and if a cars only role is to transport people safely, cheaply , quickly and efficiently as you suggest , then I assume you believe the same concepts apply with regards to shelter? ie a house should provide shelter safely, cheaply , quickly and with least cost to the environment . It follows that we can safely assume you have decided to give up what is likely a large , modestly efficient 2 storey home in Cherrybrook , and currently reside ( or are planning to reside) in a small, quickly assembled, inexpensive but very energy efficient home with Tesla roof tiles on order, instead? It also follows that no one should prefer more luxurious interiors or furnishings in their home, or a choice of more than two colours on their interior walls etc? It should all be cookie cutter utilitarian tech only, so that shelter is delivered in the safest, cheapest, quickest and most efficient manner always? Or do different rules apply for that?

If you read back through the thread, nobody has been anti Tesla or anti EV's. Quite the contrary. Any balanced review of the thread would conclude that everyone has been broadly in agreement about EV's and their dominant role in the auto industry in years to come. But you insist on taking thinly veiled pot shots at people anyway, apparently because they dont agree Tesla is the be all and end all of all things auto . Seems a little silly to me...

Sit down, @standtall . Relax. Pour yourself a shandy or a lemonade or a green tea or whatever you prefer.... People agree with you broadly. You're arguing over semantics.

#theskyisblue

 

This is because they release a new model so instantly the previously one has less value. I dont think that happens with tesla because of the online updates. The last one gave new features, one before that have 5% performance increase, one before that have 5% range increase. You effectively always have latest car.

 

My latest non EV purchase. 
Because I love anything that is loud and has an engine

 

i feel your passion, except i like getting loud n dirty

 

Sorry but I always feel that people that need loud vehicles never got enough attention from their mum.

 

Hope they know most car noise is faked like most other trophy acquisitions middle age men try to acquire through their wealth

Lots of car noises are fake — let’s make them more fun