A call for landlords to be registered for licences

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  1. larrylarry

    larrylarry Well-Known Member

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    Wonderful idea. Who do they think will pay for this?
     
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    If we have to then tenants should have to be subject to licensing and credit check too then. I would experience the same level of anxiety about my rent not being paid and my house being trashed and me having to continue to make mortgage repayments regardless of if my rent gets paid. Are they forgetting that landlords are renting half a million/million dollar properties to people, we aren’t renting out a $20000 asset. I agree with minimum standards but I think that most managed properties would meet these and if not we already have avenues for emergency repairs. I also think that if someone chooses to rent a dilapidated property at a lower rent price than a something in good condition then that’s their choice.
     
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    haha landlords who else?! We will probably get hit with a new landlord tax
     
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    Wouldnt worry me if we had to be licensed. It would probably cost stuff all.
     
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    The tenants of course. Cost would be passed on in higher rents.
     
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    "The report found:

    • 90 per cent of renters say being forced to move would cause them serious financial and emotion stress;
    • 75 per cent held back from reporting problems because they feared eviction;
    • 64 per cent said evictions caused them serious anxiety;
    • 60 per cent said the threat of a no-grounds eviction strained their relationship with the landlord."
    And then say "acknowledged that the findings were not scientific"

    So completely false and misleading basis for the article, yet even within the few responses here one person indicates that they have an acceptable argument and the result is acceptable.

    I have 60+ tenants in Sydney and I have evicted maybe 5 tenants on basis of no grounds spanning 30+ years. Most of these were either because we wanted to renovate the property or the tenant was to wrong tenant for the property.
     
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    I must have missed something - the article is about tenants not reporting maintenance issues for fear of eviction, end of lease, no-grounds eviction, landlords as investors and reforms to the Act.

    1. Maintenance is in the interest of the owner to keep at asset going rather than being up for major end of lease costs
    2. Eviction of tenant's is a loss leader, the winner is the agent. Investors suffer loss of rent, maintenance or repair costs & agency fees for a possible uplift in rent.
    3. Fearful of end of lease, don't go into holdover
    4. No-grounds eviction, see 3.
    5. Investors are in it for a reason they are not benefactors for renter's housing choices
    6. There are amendments to the Act which will affect all parties, check out the fair trading website .
    7. Political statement sought only from One side pre-election.
     
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    Nanny state politics. Some socialist pinko hippie hairy greens party idea maybe ? Most tenancy advocacy groups are people who need a shower and a job who are out to advocate for others who need a shower and a job. They want to regulate, license and control everything in the quest for social order and fairness. If they had a job they wouldnt have as much free time to bang on endlessly. Apart from their commie party organised protest marches of course.

    I have a solution. Owners can do as they wish with their property within the scope of the RE Tenancies Act. If you find that hard to digest then buy yourself a property and dont rent. Until that occurs accept that the landlord owns the property and has rights over their not insignificant investment.
     
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    No preconceived ideas there :rolleyes:
     
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    I agree,

    This also comes close to the proposed tenancy changes recently discussed down south (Vic I think it was)

    Allowing tenants non structural changes and allowing other small changes. What a world we live in where we afford rights to the tenant ahead of the actual owner of the property, who actually bears the financial cost and risks of such an investment.

    I guess the buck stops with the managing agent/lessor who vettes said tenants...
     
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    The issue being that hardly any of them know the rules and there's not any recourse or enforcement.
     
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    I agree. It makes me mad that they want to have the benefits of buying a house without any of the stress or risk.
     
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    @Paul@PFI Pretty much agree with your sentiments, but the only issue I see is the above.

    I don't know what the solution is either, and I don't think its a licensing system, but there is a large body of landlords (and even some PMs) with NFI of what they're doing.
     
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    Yes, a lot of LL's and a lot of PMs don't know what they're doing and they're ruining it for the PM's and LL's who do know what they're doing. I think the main issue is how grey area a lot of the rules are. Private landlords never really learn the rules, just do what they think is right, and don't get the regular updates we're subscribed to.

    I strongly believe the rules should be more black and white and more widely published. This would prevent a lot of animosity, arguments and disputes.
     
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    REINSW has requested that landlords send a letter to their local members to abandon proposal to remove the no grounds termination of leases.

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    Dear Member,



    Unfortunately, the No Grounds Eviction is once again on the agenda with the State Labor Party promising to remove it from the Act within their first 100 days in Government. It is important that NSW landlords and investors are aware of these changes.



    Under NSW Labor, it is proposed that landlords in NSW will no longer be able to evict tenants from their properties without providing a reason, effectively abolishing the “no-grounds evictions”. Currently, property owners can end a tenancy with 90 days’ notice once the tenancy agreement has expired without giving a reason.



    REINSW believes the current provisions relating to no grounds termination are sufficient.



    We do not believe that a landlord’s right to terminate without grounds undermines a tenant’s other rights under the Act. For example, a tenant is protected against retaliatory eviction by the landlord under Section 115.



    Further to this, REINSW does not agree with the proposition that no grounds terminations should be removed from the legislation and that the landlord should be required to provide grounds for termination from a prescribed list of possible reasons. Again, the landlord should be able to deal with their property and make decisions regarding it as they see fit. They shouldn’t be required to disclose the reasons for their decision to terminate the tenancy.



    A landlord has the right to privacy and should not be expected to disclose personal issues that are not relevant to the termination. Why should they be expected to forego their right to privacy and disclose circumstances of divorce, illness, redundancy, financial strife etc. A tenant doesn’t need to give a reason why they want to terminate a lease. Why should a landlord?



    We urge you to send the suggested letter below to your landlord to take action. We have also attached a letter that your landlords and investors can forward to their Member of Parliament.



    Kind regards



    Tim Mckibbin | Chief Executive Officer

    Real Estate Institute of New South Wales"


    Send yours today - linky