Study or Bedroom - Minimum room size requirements?

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  1. Taku Ekanayake

    Taku Ekanayake Well-Known Member

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    Hi all,

    Does anyone know what the minimum room size requirements are for a room to be classified as a bedroom, rather than a study (in Queensland)?

    I'm trying to turn my 3br into a 4br, and it is vital I have the property revalued as a 4br.
    The cheaper option would be to make the 4th room 2.45 x 3.6.
    However, I do have the option to make it a 3.0 x 3.6 - this would cost me additional +$2K.

    Your feedback is greatly appreciated.


    Cheers,

    Taku
     
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  2. Property Twins

    Property Twins Mortgage Brokers & Buyers Agents Business Member

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    @Taku Ekanayake, the additional $2k may mean another 20-30k in equity just because it's a bedroom.

    I've seen people present 2.5 x 2 or so as rooms also :eek:
     
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  3. DaveM

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    There is no minimum size to my knowledge... just qualification as habitable room (ceiling height, light and ventilation).
     
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  4. Peter_Tersteeg

    Peter_Tersteeg Mortgage Broker Business Member

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    One of my IPs has a room exactly the same size as the other bedrooms, but it's often clasiffied as a study because it's in the slopping roof space, so it feels smaller. The definition of a bedroom or study is fairly subjective.
     
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  5. Taku Ekanayake

    Taku Ekanayake Well-Known Member

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    Hi @MsAli,
    Very true. I just don't want to fork out an extra $2K if the first (and cheaper) option will still be classed as a 4th bedroom.

    Thanks @DaveM. I presume it will be habitable because the ceiling will be the same as all the other rooms in the house, has a window, and powerpoint.
     
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  6. Taku Ekanayake

    Taku Ekanayake Well-Known Member

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    Hi @Peter_Tersteeg. Thanks for the feedback. Because it's subjective, is this something that could be disputed with the valuer if it came back as a 3br + 1 study?
     
  7. Taku Ekanayake

    Taku Ekanayake Well-Known Member

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    I just spoke to the REA who sold me the property and he said he will change the property description from a 3br to a 4br in the backend of RP Data and Pricefinder - will this help when it comes to re-valuing the property?
     
  8. Marg4000

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    I think the extra $2K would be well worth it, both for resale and tenants. A small poky bedroom is no more use than a study.
    Marg
     
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  9. Inov8ive

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    2.45 x 3.6 is fine for a bedroom, it is small but as long as it is at least 2.4m ceiling height and has sufficient light and ventilation it is a room. As a fourth bedroom which would presumably be for a child, it is fine
     
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  10. S.T

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    As long as you can swing a cat in there?
     
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  11. Tim & Chrissy

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    House Room Dimensions and BCA requirements

    Bedrooms today are usually equipped with a built in robe. Most houses also designate a bedroom as the Master bedroom. A master bedroom either has a built in robe or a walk in robe, and now commonly incorporate an ensuite.
    I have worked on many projects where architects have created dysfunctional bedrooms due to there less than adequate room dimenions. I am going to suggest some bare minimum sizes you can incorporate into your design.

    Bedroom-Standard.jpg

    3000mm x 3600mm
    Very basic bedroom layout which allows for a built in robe and space for a queens sized bed and 2 side tables. I wouldn't recommend anything smaller than this

    Note: I have no idea who this bloke is but I tend to agree. I have seen houses with the size bedroom you are considering and I always have considered them as 2.5 bedroom homes.
     
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  12. Taku Ekanayake

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    Thanks @Inov8ive. Ceiling height shouldn't be an issue and also ventilation. I just spoke to HTW valuer and it sounds very subjective and dependant upon the valuer. They said they will also consider total living space : bedroom ratio. For eg if it is a very large 3br, then if it is turned into a 4br it should pass etc
     
  13. Taku Ekanayake

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    Thanks @Tim & Chrissy for the feedback. I wonder how credible the writer is but he does make sense.
    I'm leaning towards option for 3.0 x 3.6 bedrooms . Only issue is I don't think ill be spending money for walk-in wardrobe.
     
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  14. Peter_Tersteeg

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    I suppose you could make that argument and dispute a valuation. It wouldn't change the valuers mind however. They'll just disagree with you stand by their original estimate. In my experience, to successfully challenge a valuation, the argument needs to be extremely compelling.
     
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  15. Mr Dabolina

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    Go the 3x3.6 m @Taku Ekanayake Why an extra 2K? is this to establish a wall between the centre of window frame?
     
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  17. Xenia

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    Taku
    If you have the ability to make it a little bigger now then do it.
    You will never regret the descision to make a room a little bigger whether it's a study or bedroom.

    Always call it a 4th bedroom on your advertising
     
  18. dabbler

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    I would say make it a full & proper bedroom if it is only 2k UNLESS your just trying to do it to raise cash and then put it back as a 3 so it has less attraction for a "mob" of tenants, if that makes sense.
     
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  19. Azazel

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    You can swing a cat - cat might not like hitting the walls though.
     
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  20. Chilliblue

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    From an agents perspective if you can fit a bed, it is the legal height and there is an opening window then it's a bedroom.
     
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