600mmH retaining wall

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  1. Fernfurn

    Fernfurn Well-Known Member

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    We are doing some small treated pine retaining walls only 600mm high at most. How much is the steel retaining post supposed to go in the ground. This is for resale so I don't want to overengineer it. I have heard you only need a third of the height of the post in the ground, i.e. =600H buy 900H post and 300 in ground. Does anyone know the general rule for this?
     
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    I would be 600m below ground and 600mm above as a min into concrete. Depends on the load If its backfilled and wet ground with poor drainage (consider ag drainage and backfill recycled concrete agg) perhaps 900mm. And the timber strength eg 25mm thin boards vs 150mm round logs or thicker wing splits etc.

    Your council may have a guide. Many do have minimum specs to guide street facing retaining walls. eg page 9 and page 35 here : https://www.blacktown.nsw.gov.au/fi...-development-within-the-residential-areas.pdf

    Its vague and requires suitably engineered walls. The distance between each support is also a factor. The landscape material provider is probably suitably experienced to guide you.

    The depth wont influence cost much. Just longer posts and more concrete.

    Bunnings sell prefab kits that may assist to guide depth ??
     
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    The manufacturer should have a guide
     
  5. Optimus

    Optimus Well-Known Member Business Member

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    General rule, whatever's out of the ground should be in the ground..

    600 high
    600 deep holes
     
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    geoffw Moderator Staff Member

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    That is for wood posts - which do come a lot cheaper than steel posts. They do support wood sleepers. They mix concrete or have a concrete truck - I've used quick set concrete effectively, it's very easy to use. No mixing and it sets solid.
     
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    [d4rk-fr3d] Well-Known Member

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    What about the anti-termite treatment for the retaining woods?
     
  9. geoffw

    geoffw Moderator Staff Member

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    The original post mentioned treated pine, the posts are using the same. The treatment is to make them termite resistant.
     
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    Nice, that does make sense.
    Thanks @geoffw
     
  11. Instant Greenscene

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    In most cases if you are going 600mm above, then 600mm below ground in concrete footings would be sufficient. In some cases like sandy soil etc, you may consider 800mm below ground. It is also going to be dependent on spacing of your posts. In addition to footings, appropriate drainage and back fill materials should also be considered.
     
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  12. Scott No Mates

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    The design is dependent upon the material being retained, porosity & the angle of repose of that material