2022- If Quarantine Restraints Continue?

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  1. shorty

    shorty Well-Known Member

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    A competent government at this moment would:

    - fast track proper quarantine facilities
    - fast track building local mRNA vaccine production capability
    - focus on delivering coherent, credible messaging about vaccines
    - set up a federal centre for disease control
    - provide a roadmap for getting these things done with thresholds. How can there be any business confidence when everything is up in the air?

    Point 2 above is crucial I think, because when an even nastier strain of covid emerges that evades vaccines (I think this is likely) we are going to be back at square one and dependent on overseas manufacture.

    Our current government is quite clearly either unwilling or incapable of doing any of these things itself.
     
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    Highly skilled Expats are leaving in droves , channel 9 would have you believe australia is the only place functioning normally that isn’t the case , a lot of the high skilled highly mobile are leaving ,not much attraction to living in a country closed to the world talking about building quarantine camps when they can go anywhere
     
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    I’ve heard universities are slashing staff big time. Hundreds to thousands?:(
     
  4. Melbourne_searcher

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    In my professional circle, I know at least 4 families who have left Australia recently. They came back to their home countries: Germany, Italy, UK and Canada.
    The main reason for all of them to leave is to reunite with there families. All of them cannot accept our international boarder closure & uncertainty about it.
     
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    And plenty of australian expats have come back.
     
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    Last year the question would probably have been what if australian cases and deaths follow the us and italy? As it turns out, pessimistic case isnt as inevitable as it seems to some.
     
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    Correct - although many unis don't have thousands to start with. I suspect many unis have taken the opportunity to "streamline" staff numbers. This will probably be most evident in the casual ("sessional" in uni-speak) workforce. The sessional workforce is made up of many higher degree students - and they have taken the brunt of the cuts (unfortunately those that can least afford it in many ways).

    The cutback in sessionals has also meant permanent staff have more work load, and many of them are getting disgruntled - and may lead to them leaving if they can find anything else (which is not really an option either right now).

    The flow on long term IMHO is that Unis will go towards strengthening the establishment of overseas campuses (with the sales tag of "why come to Australia when you can get a degree conferred by an Australian Uni in your own country"), although there will always be a demand for those who come here to use their student experience as a lead on to stay permanently here (definitely not as easy as it used to be, even prior to covid, but still doable).

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    I know a friend who is doing "franchising" British/Australian degrees seems unaffected by Covid. They are doing well and supporting the returnees from those countries. Maybe it would be my new venture side hustle? :rolleyes:
     
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    So are we the only country in the world that has a ZERO covid strategy??


    Only 5% of the population vaccinated

    70% of population now under lock down rules

    Business owners wondering how much longer the circuit breakers will continue to plague their livelihoods

    Care workers now must have a vaccine, as well as anyone working indirectly/directly in quarantine hotels.
    Announced Monday…. Geez:confused:
     
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    Home quarantine for vaccinated people is now on the cards. Great idea. It will be interesting to see how they define a ‘vaccinated person’ - eg are those who have been vaccinated overseas considered vaccinated? What about people who have had vaccines not approved for use here? What about parents who are vaccinated but their children are not?
     
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    I know a guy from Taiwan who worked for a multinational tech company at their Brisbane office and he has recently convinced them to transfer him to US on compassionate grounds as he needed to travel frequently to Taiwan to visit his family which wasn't possible while working in Brisbane.

    There is a cost to border closures and lockdowns - thinking otherwise is plain foolish!
     
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    You would have to have rocks in your head to get an Australian University degree as an international without the "Free Visa".

    Not really a suprise, there was a reason they left the first time around.
     
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    Zero Covid would send us back to the dark ages.
     
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    1. Regardless of all of the above...the world as we know it...will never be the same again.
    2. Regional property will continue to boom.
     
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    this too will pass

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  20. MTR

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    Mmmmmm…. No job keeper for businesses:(
     
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